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GCWaters
01-31-2025, 02:15 PM
Bison athletic endowment tops $100 million

https://www.inforum.com/sports/bison-media-zone/mens-sports/bison-athletic-endowment-tops-100-million

roadwarrior
01-31-2025, 04:16 PM
Tax credits from my endowment donations has allowed me to pay zero income tax in North Dakota since 2013.

WhoRepsTheLurker
01-31-2025, 05:08 PM
That is super impressive

I know where the NDSU total endowment ($500M) stacks up in FCS, but how does this athletic endowment ($110M) rank in FCS? Also, how does the G&G collective rank among NILs in FCS?

My guess is that when you look at these numbers it is hard to read anything negative into the opt out that seems to be causing such a fuss among some …

LefseBison
01-31-2025, 09:30 PM
Tax credits from my endowment donations has allowed me to pay zero income tax in North Dakota since 2013.

Same here.

NI4NI
01-31-2025, 09:50 PM
Same here.

I'm not a geography surgeon, but is Holantosine, Norway a real place?

HerdBot
02-01-2025, 12:41 PM
This isn't a sexy topic like facilities, but once the endowment hits 125 million for the scholarship portion, the entire athletics scholarships will be funded forever, without a penny of taxpayers dollars

They endowment also funds operations

When the magic number is hit, Teammakers can spend their revenue on whatever they choose. Facilities, buildings, fan villages, NIL, or whatever they can dream up. They could even do an endowment of they don't have one already

NDSUguy
02-02-2025, 01:40 AM
That is super impressive

I know where the NDSU total endowment ($500M) stacks up in FCS, but how does this athletic endowment ($110M) rank in FCS? Also, how does the G&G collective rank among NILs in FCS?

My guess is that when you look at these numbers it is hard to read anything negative into the opt out that seems to be causing such a fuss among some …

From an athletic endowment perspective $111M is actually very high even when looking at comparisons again P5 schools. For example, the University of Texas has an athletic endowment of onlly $75M. They probably don't need the endowment because of all of their other revenue sources but as as a comparison NDSU's endowment is very large.

WhoRepsTheLurker
02-03-2025, 04:15 PM
From an athletic endowment perspective $111M is actually very high even when looking at comparisons again P5 schools. For example, the University of Texas has an athletic endowment of onlly $75M. They probably don't need the endowment because of all of their other revenue sources but as as a comparison NDSU's endowment is very large.

Thanks. I assume your the 'guy' over on csnbbs trying to leverage reason. Appreciate your work

Saw this over there

https://x.com/ByBerkowitz/status/1886439571937792397?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet&mx=2

High time, and I hope something comes of it

GCWaters
02-03-2025, 05:05 PM
Thanks. I assume your the 'guy' over on csnbbs trying to leverage reason. Appreciate your work

Saw this over there

https://x.com/ByBerkowitz/status/1886439571937792397?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet&mx=2

High time, and I hope something comes of it

That's not gonna make James Madison happy....

tony
02-04-2025, 12:45 PM
The biggest flex about the "Bison athletic endowment tops $100 million" headline in the Forum is that they treated the amount over the $100 million as a rounding error even though it's larger than a lot of schools' total endowments.

TAILG8R
02-04-2025, 01:50 PM
The biggest flex about the "Bison athletic endowment tops $100 million" headline in the Forum is that they treated the amount over the $100 million as a rounding error even though it's larger than a lot of schools' total endowments.

I sort of did a double take when I read those lines/comments too. It was like, "Meh, it's around 110ish million ..."

AKBison
02-04-2025, 06:15 PM
This isn't a sexy topic like facilities, but once the endowment hits 125 million for the scholarship portion, the entire athletics scholarships will be funded forever, without a penny of taxpayers dollars

They endowment also funds operations

When the magic number is hit, Teammakers can spend their revenue on whatever they choose. Facilities, buildings, fan villages, NIL, or whatever they can dream up. They could even do an endowment of they don't have one already

Unfortunately, I'm assuming the "old" magic number is no longer the "new" magic number. With the scholarship increases in Softball, Baseball, Football, Wrestling and Men's Basketball, the new number has to be north of 200 million. It's a hell of an accomplishment and getting this done definitely frees up Team Makers to fund different things. The alumni support here is extraordinary.

ByeSonBusiness
02-05-2025, 05:23 AM
Unfortunately, I'm assuming the "old" magic number is no longer the "new" magic number. With the scholarship increases in Softball, Baseball, Football, Wrestling and Men's Basketball, the new number has to be north of 200 million. It's a hell of an accomplishment and getting this done definitely frees up Team Makers to fund different things. The alumni support here is extraordinary.

I hope NDSU's plan is not to fully fund every sport. That's a path to being a nobody

56BISON73
02-05-2025, 05:44 AM
I hope NDSU's plan is not to fully fund every sport. That's a path to being a nobody

Please explain?

ByeSonBusiness
02-05-2025, 06:06 AM
Please explain?

Resources shouldn't be spread that thin. This new way of doing scholarships is (in my opinion) intended to spread small schools too thin.

It's P4 1980's Reagan Star Wars. Spend those who you don't like into submission.

Gully
02-05-2025, 11:08 AM
Resources shouldn't be spread that thin. This new way of doing scholarships is (in my opinion) intended to spread small schools too thin.

It's P4 1980's Reagan Star Wars. Spend those who you don't like into submission.

But if you are "fully funded" you couldn't spread anymore if you had it, right? Maybe you mean if it's all spent on scholarships things would be tight for facilities, coaches salaries, etc. but we're in a great spot on facilities and TM dues could then be used for salaries (and I think some of that is endowed as well).

Bisonator98
02-05-2025, 11:44 AM
I hope NDSU's plan is not to fully fund every sport. That's a path to being a nobody


Resources shouldn't be spread that thin. This new way of doing scholarships is (in my opinion) intended to spread small schools too thin.

It's P4 1980's Reagan Star Wars. Spend those who you don't like into submission.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq-v1TTUyhM&t=27s

HerdBot
02-06-2025, 03:00 PM
Unfortunately, I'm assuming the "old" magic number is no longer the "new" magic number. With the scholarship increases in Softball, Baseball, Football, Wrestling and Men's Basketball, the new number has to be north of 200 million. It's a hell of an accomplishment and getting this done definitely frees up Team Makers to fund different things. The alumni support here is extraordinary.

If 125 million covers all athletic scholarships, it should be in the ballpark. There is a tuition rate freeze right now. Also the endowment grows every year too and they don't distribute all the earnings so it still grows. The real number is the increased scholarship number
The real number is to max fund everything


Resources shouldn't be spread that thin. This new way of doing scholarships is (in my opinion) intended to spread small schools too thin.

It's P4 1980's Reagan Star Wars. Spend those who you don't like into submission.

The US added debt to fund the military and an endowment is perpetual revenue. I mean you want to spend what you can afford. Even with the roster limit, you don't have to make them all scholarships

I think we can pull it off but I agree most FCS schools won't

It makes sense to max fund softball, WBB, and MBB... but maybe not soccer or volleyball. Hoops has revenue growth potential more than any other sport, both mens and womens

But If he endowment can crack 200 million, max fund everything including 105 football scholarships and the intramural ping pong team